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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

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  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Sea Breeze

  @GB

  You cant have it both ways. You can't pick a broad statement about being no part of the world and then ignore the clear SPECIFIC purpose of governments : is to BEAR THE SWORD. They are GOD'S MINISTER. People who kill the enemy in a military operation are not guilty of murder. God will sort out the details in due time.

  1. JW's are at war with their own governments because they do not recognize governments in the biblical way as God's ordained ministers of justice. They believe that God chose themselves to rule the world in 1919 and all the other governments other than their own are illegitimate.

  2. JW's are at war with God because they got the wrong Jesus. They believe in Michael the Archangel rather than the risen Son of God who commanded "all" to partake of the New Covenant (Mt. 26: 27-28) and get your sins taken away and get born again with a new and better spirit.

  3. JW's are at war with their neighbors because they bind up heavy loads on others they themselves are not willing to bear. They destroy families with their shunning policies. Blind guides, filled to the brim with self-importance is what they are. They create many unbiblical rules that they require others to live by but they won't. They live in a web of lies and virtually demand that others live the same way.

  
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0eLCjCAB4s&ab_channel=KimMikey

  @Dreary Weather - I'm glad they are out. I wonder if they still feel the same about the WT after (presumably) now having access to the Internet?
  
  
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Sea Breeze

  "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will [a]bring judgment on themselves....
  

  For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil". - Rom. 13:

  Jehovah's Witnesses live a life in rebellion to authority. They rebel first and foremost against Jesus when they mock his sacrifice every memorial by disobeying his command to eat and drink "for the forgiveness of sins" (Mt. 26: 27-28)

  Then, they rebel against their own government that God has allowed at this time when it suits their whims.
  
  Although they dress up the outside of the product, the reality is that JW's live a life in near total rebellion against God and their fellow-man. "They bind up heavy loads on others". For these and other reasons, they are almost impossible to get along with.

  Jesus called people like this white-washed tombs.
  
  
  
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  New Translation Record as 13 Bibles Are Released in One Weekend

  by Wonderment in

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  new translation record as 13 bibles are released in one weekend:.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/new-translation-record-as-13-bibles-are-released-in-one-weekend/.

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  Sea Breeze

  Here were the imminent scholars who faithfully discharged their translating duties with reverence and integrity.

  
  
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  Watchtower has fallen from 700k words/year to now to just 170k words/year

  by ComingOutaMyCage in

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  this is one of the many charts on my jw lib analytics.. i have also attached the top 500 scriptures from 1950-2022. https://comingoutamycage.github.io/jw_lib_analytics/viewwordsperyear.html?publication=watchtower&normal=1.

  https://i.postimg.cc/503yg1f7/word-count-watchtower.png.

  https://i.postimg.cc/gdmskjv-lib-analytics-view-top-scriptures-html.png.

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  Sea Breeze

  Here's what I make of it. After pumping the 1975 failed prophecy, and then riding the generation false prophecy for all it was worth, they finally ran out of false prophecies to write about to cause mass hysteria with.

  Now there is nothing but mass exodus.
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Sea Breeze

  Excellent reference TBK.
  

  Here's the reference in Luke 3: 14-
  And some soldiers were questioning him, saying, “And what about us, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages.”

  Jesus basically said for them to be lawful, do their job and be don't stealing anybody's stuff. Compare this with the reaction a soldier would get if he attended a KH service in his uniform and asked what he needed to do to join their group.

  A couple hundred years later an entire legion of Roman Soldiers happened to be Christian because they were recruited in an area around Thebes where there were many Christians. They were good soldiers doing their job, helping to keep law and order in the empire, content with their wages. They are remembered as the Theban Legion Martyrs.

  They alone had the gall to stand up to Caesar when he was hunting Christians:

  "You order us to seek out Christians for punishment. You do not now have to seek out others on this charge since you have us here confessing: We believe in God the Father maker of all and God his Son Jesus Christ…." (AD 286)

  Maximillian ordered them decimated again and again until none were left.
  
  This is also an excellent reference to the early deity of Christ belief.
  
  
  
  
  
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Sea Breeze

  Can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile Christian was an active duty Roman military officer named Cornelius. These guys have been locked up for 25 years!
  
  
  
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  Charles Russell Apologetics

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  just ran across a russell apologetic site that i think people will find interesting as well as informative.. ron day writes:.

  charles taze russell never “expected” christ to return in 1874. before 1876, russell had rejected the date setting of the second adventists.

  in 1876, he accepted barbour’s conclusion that christ had returned in 1874. yes, he died in 1916, still holding to the belief that christ had returned in 1874.. until 1904, russell accepted barbour’s belief that armageddon (the time of trouble) had begun in 1874, and that it was to end in 1914. he rejected this in 1904, about ten years before 1914. in 1904, he came to understand that the time of trouble begins after the ending of the times of the gentiles.. russell, however, never believed in the kind of armageddon that is preached by the jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Russell, however, never believed in the kind of Armageddon that is preached by the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He did not believe in the idea that Armageddon was to eternally destroy millions of unregenerated men, women and children.

  I always suspected this. Thanks for posting... very interesting.

  God allows the reign of the anti-christ because this comes to be what people want. Each crisis follows a certain pattern:

  Crisis>Fear>Chaos>Increased Control>Voluntarily Giving up Freedom>Compliance>Calm>Repeat

  We have already been through several of these.... looks like Climate Change may be the final one. Could also be global financial collapse...We'll see.

  Regardless, this cycle will repeat until the Anti-Christ gains global ascendancy.

  God stops the insanity after the Anti-Christ kills around 2/3 of the worlds population and then mounts a suicide attack on the tiny nation of Israel at the Battle of Armageddon.
  
  Jesus is the good guy in this scenario as he stops the rampage before there is nothing left. "Unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved".

  But the (Rutherford/Franz) WT paints God as the one running around killing people like cock-roaches as personal punishment for not submitting to the Pharisaical dictates of the Wt.

  In reality, Satan hates mankind and would like to exterminate us all as he goes down in flames.
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  Watchtower has fallen from 700k words/year to now to just 170k words/year

  by ComingOutaMyCage in

  1. watchtower
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  this is one of the many charts on my jw lib analytics.. i have also attached the top 500 scriptures from 1950-2022. https://comingoutamycage.github.io/jw_lib_analytics/viewwordsperyear.html?publication=watchtower&normal=1.

  https://i.postimg.cc/503yg1f7/word-count-watchtower.png.

  https://i.postimg.cc/gdmskjv-lib-analytics-view-top-scriptures-html.png.

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  Sea Breeze

  Braindead die-hards will see this as a fulfillment of prophecy.

  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: - Amos 8 : 11
  
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  The Gospel Message By Age

  by Sea Breeze in

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  so, it really irks me that the wt is able to snow people so easily with their mt.

  24: 14 "kingdom message" schtick.

  of the 30+ times "gospel of ____ " is listed in the nt, only 4 times is it "gospel of the kingdom".

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  Sea Breeze

  That moment when you realize you wasted 40 years of your life telling people about the Paradise Earth when 2/3 of Evangelicals already believe in a Paradise Earth, but they just call it by another name: The Millennium Reign.

  
  
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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

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  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  @ VH - Yes use whatever you wish.

  The ransom payment was paid for all so mankind would have a right to a resurrection. Christ died for all. But it seems that the benefits of the ransom sacrifice don't apply to the other sheep right now.

  Do you believe in Universal Salvation? Just curious. Is it All? Or, whosoever?
  
  

  Mat_10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

  Mat_10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

  Mat_16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

  Joh_3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

  Joh_3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

  Joh 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

  The payment is offered, but it must be received in order for righteousness to be imputed. It is the state of "righteousness' that gives us the inheritance of life as an heir in the family of God.

  Some people simply do not want Jesus to be King, plain and simple. Luke 19: 14 (Yes, 1914 )
  

  “But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.”

  Should not God give people who request freedom from himself their wish?